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Pondering Baen Books

by Rindis on July 14, 2007 at 4:23 pm
Posted In: Books

My roommate Dave just wrote a snarky little rant about the quality of Baen’s main authors. There are some points I disagree with, but at the same time I have to agree with the overall assessment.

The main thing I disagree with is the general place of style and quality of prose. Of course, I’m closer to the ‘engineer’ camp, where plot is the primary thing of importance in a story. On the other hand, I don’t disdain better prose. Better is better, it’s just that once you reach a certain level of competence in prose, I’m more interested in seeing a better plot and more vibrant characters than glowing prose.

Bujold and Webber are the only two of the five I’ve read (other than some Drake long ago), and I think the main problem with Webber is that he’s too satisfied with where he is. I have not seen his writing grow, despite the fact that there’s more-than-occasional hints that he could be so much better.

I’ve been reading Bujold since about the time her third novel came out. Her skills have grown. Her prose keeps getting more deft, her characters more nuanced, and her plots tighter and more elegant.

All this means that I don’t really disagree with the submission guideline’s statement on style as the source of the problem, per se. As evidenced by too many of Baen Books’ covers, Jim Baen’s artistic taste seems to all be in his mouth, and that may very well go for his taste in the written word as well.

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Readable non-fiction….

by Rindis on September 12, 2005 at 5:19 pm
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Been meaning to get to this for ages. I try to leaven all my fiction reading with some non-fiction. As my primary interest is history, I generally end up reading something about the past. I don’t care for dry academic studies (important, but I’m reading, not researching), so I’m interested in the books that are more for the general reader, but deeper than an introduction. So, here’s some of what I’ve read over the last couple months.

Dreadnought: Britain, Germany, and the Coming of the Great War by Robert K. Massie
This nice little doorstop is a good book, and a good read. Do note that the subtitle is much more accurate than the title. HMS Dreadnought was a remarkable new direction in capital ship design, and Massie does spend some time focused on it, but the book is about the political process that lead to Britain and Germany’s collision in WWI, rather than the arms race the politics engendered.

Most of all, it is a book about personalities. Whenever the history takes a step forward, Massie spends a loving amount of detail on reconstructing the personality of the new central figure diving into the words and works he left behind and his relationships with other people in the narrative.

A very good book. Quite readable, and well worth reading, but very dense in it’s information, don’t try to read it in a distracting environment. I plan to get his other books as soon as I can.

“A description of the next five years of Churchill’s life reads more like the plot of a ‘tuppenny’ Victorian novel than a true account of the adventures of a young British officer. Somehow, in this short span of time at the high-water mark of European colonialism, this young man managed to place himself under fire in four different wars in four widely separate corners of the earth.”

So it was appropriate that the next book I read was one of Winston Churchill’s books about his own adventures. The River War is a history of Egypt’s (under British leadership) campaign to win back the Sudan from the uprising seen in the movie Khartoum. Churchill himself was only present for the climatic campaign that culminated with the battle of Omdurman, and the four chapters where he is present have a much different tone than the rest of the book.

Considering that it is written about events where the author was an eager participant, and in an age before political correctness, it is entirely written from his, or at least, the British viewpoint and talks intelligently of the problems of supply and logistics, ever important in that harsh climate, as well as the military maneuvers. The next time someone wants to write of the archetypal massive evil hordes in an epic fantasy novel, it might be worth looking up Churchill first:

“It seemed to us, as we looked, that there might be 3,000 men behind a high dense zeriba of thorn bushes….
Suddenly the whole black line which seemed to be zeriba began to move. It was made of men, not bushes. Behind it other dense masses and lines of men appeared over the crest; and while we watched, amazed by the wonder of the sight, the whole slope became black with swarming savages. Four miles from end to end… this mighty army advanced—swiftly. The whole side of the hill seemed to move.”

Currently, I’m reading The Isles: A History by Norman Davies. Another massive book, it tells the story of the (as he points out, wrongly named) British isles from prehistory to the present day in a readable format. He is enamored of language and nomenclature.

While an overview at best, thanks to the scope, he spells out his commitment to spreading the knowledge of history to the common man (and therefore writing so as to be understood and engaging the attention of such) in the introduction, and does his best to uncover all those nasty tendencies that lead to poor assumptions.

“…One of these [observations] would refer to the widespread, unthinking, and unshakeable belief in the unbroken continuity of ‘our island history’. The belief is so strong that it crushes any sense of the need to change the names to match the changing reality. England is assumed to be fixed and eternal. Hence many historians do not hesitate to talk of ‘England’ in those centuries of the first millennium long before the creation either of an English state or nation. And they continue to talk of ‘England’ as a mistaken synonym for the United Kingdom long after England had been merged into a wider unified state.”

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Historical (or alternate-history) novels I’ve read and liked:

by Rindis on August 13, 2005 at 3:45 pm
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This is salvaged from an ages old forum post. Reading and history are a couple of my main hobbies, so I naturally have an interest in books that talk about history. This is a list of books that are at least generally pretty good that deal with history.

Sumeria: (sorta)

Between the Rivers by Harry Turtledove

A fun look at how humans get out from under the thumbs of their patron gods in a mesopotamia-ish setting.

Second Intermediate Period Egypt

The Shepherd Kings by Judith Tarr

A novel of the fall of the Hyksos, with horse-worshiping thrown in.

Ancient Greece

The King Must Die by Mary Renault
The Bull from the Sea by Mary Renault

While Mary Renault’s other books haven’t done much for me, this pair on Theseus really caught at my imagination.

New Kingdom Egypt

King and Goddess by Judith Tarr
Lord of Two Lands by Judith Tarr

Judith Tarr’s fascination with Ancient Egypt shows with four novels (including the Akenaten-as-Moses Pillar of Fire) covering different parts of its history. She has a good grasp of the culture, and more difficultly, the religion, which shapes these two wonderfully.

Roman Republic

The First Man in Rome by Colleen McCullough
The Grass Crown by Colleen McCullough
Fortune’s Favorites by Colleen McCullogh
Ceasar’s Women by Colleen McCullough
Ceasar by Colleen McCullogh
The October Horse by Colleen McCullogh

The first book in the series is by far the strongest, being meant to stand on its own, and having a much more solid plot thereby. They are certainly good (as nearly everything here is) at getting the feel of the time and place through. Coming in second is the final book, which covers from the siege of Alexandria to the first stage of the civil war following Caesar’s assassination.

Roman Empire

I, Claudius by Robert Graves
Claudius the God by Robert Graves

‘Nuff said.

Island of Ghosts by Gillian Bradshaw

An extremely well-written tale of Sarmartian troops who have been pressed into Roman service in Britannia.

The Shadow of Arrarat by Thomas Harlan
The Gate of Fire by Thomas Harlan
The Storm of Heaven by Thomas Harlan
The Dark Lord by Thomas Harlan

An alternate-history fantasy set in the early 7th century where the Western Empire has survived through the power of an ‘Oath’ that keeps change from happening. As a whole these are the weakest books here, but the first book is the best and worthwhile just for worldbuilding ideas, with a well-written large battle towards the end.

Post-Roman

Sheba by Walter S. Crane IV

A well-told fantasy story in three graphic novels of what happens to the gods when the human world moves on, set during the Muslim conquest of Egypt.

The Eagle’s Daughter by Judith Tarr

I’m surprised how often Judith Tarr gets overlooked. She’s (one of) the finest historical novelists currently writing. This one deals with Otto I-III and the birth of the Holy Roman Empire.

The Norman Conquest

Sherwood by Parke Godwin

A very well done Robin Hood story set against the Norman Conquest of England, instead of the more typical John/Richard era (a habit started by Ivanhoe).

The Crusades

A Wind in Cairo by Judith Tarr

A fun historical-fantasy set in Egypt right after Saladin takes control.

Alamut by Judith Tarr
The Dagger and the Cross by Judith Tarr

A pair of well-written historical-fantasies. The first one deals with Saladin when he tried to take on the Assasins, and the second deals with the fall of the Kingdom of Jerusalem.

The Isle of Glass by Judith Tarr
The Golden Horn by Judith Tarr
The Hounds of God by Judith Tarr

A trilogy that the previous pair are a prequel to set at the time of the Fourth Crusade.

Norman England

Ivanhoe by Sir Walter Scott

Two types of history: the first historical novel.

Lady of the Forest by Jennifer Roberson

The story of Robin Hood (in the more familiar King Richard period) from the viewpoint of Maid Marian

The American Civil War

The Killer Angels by Michael Shaara

A very good novel of Gettysburg, upon which the movie Gettysburg was based.

World War II

The Proteus Operation by James P. Hogan

A well done WWII time-travel story.

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Slow Reading (Review)….

by Rindis on August 3, 2005 at 7:06 pm
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I’ve just finished off A Clash of Kings, the second volume of George R. R. Martin’s sprawling fantasy series. I’ve got some thoughts on the books, so click on the link to see them:

They’ve been very popular, and I’d say deservedly so, but there is the fact that it shouldn’t take me five months to finish two books.

Admittedly there was a couple weeks where I was worn-down and busy enough that I basically didn’t read at all. And they are big books. But really…!

Were they bad books? No. Martin’s writing is quite good, I like his characters, I have a couple of nagging problems with the setting, but I like what he’s doing with it.

I just couldn’t motivate myself to read more than a minimal amount in either book, except for a few occasions where I gulped down a several chapters at once.

A Game of Thrones presents a fairly typical medieval fantasy setting. The background history is nice with a long-established dynasty having been overthrown about a generation ago, and the kingdom plunged into civil war over problems with the succession (a popular reason for wars in the actual middle ages). The politics are well done, I can believe the intrigue, and it’s handled well (I get tired of webs within webs within webs pretty fast; a good thing I’m not involved in court politics). The war quickly turns into four separate factions, with a permanent breakup of the kingdom likely. There’s also a mysterious (and magical) menace starting to move in frozen lands to the north, and the last survivor of the previous dynasty plotting her return to power.

So, lot of things going on, all powered by good characters and — individually — handled well from a plot point of view.

The problem is that there’s so many disconnected plots going around that the books never gel as a whole, and therefore don’t hold my attention. The beginning of the first book more-or-less makes it look like it’ll be the story of the Starks of Winterfell in these troubled times (and they are focused on them more than anything else), and if the books as a whole stuck with them and one of the major plotlines, I’d be very happy. As it is, it’s too unfocused, with too many disconnected plot fragments not really impacting each other for me to really get into.

Thanks to a very nice coworker, I’ve got a copy of the new Harry Potter book. So I’m eagerly diving into that. After that, I’m not sure what I’ll read, I’m kinda low on new things, and I’ve gone through some of my more favorite books lately….

‘Tis a puzzlement.

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